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		<title>By: Is the Software Medical Device World Ready for Agile? &#124; MTR</title>
		<link>http://rdn-consulting.com/blog/2007/07/22/agile-development-in-a-fda-regulated-setting/comment-page-1/#comment-5635</link>
		<dc:creator>Is the Software Medical Device World Ready for Agile? &#124; MTR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Sep 2011 11:42:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] device manufacturers should fear Agile. I do, however, see some stipulations that need to be made. Here is a rather dated article on the subject (from 2007) : Agile Development in an FDA Regulated [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] device manufacturers should fear Agile. I do, however, see some stipulations that need to be made. Here is a rather dated article on the subject (from 2007) : Agile Development in an FDA Regulated [...]</p>
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		<title>By: The Software Quality Balancing Act &#124; Bob on Medical Device Software</title>
		<link>http://rdn-consulting.com/blog/2007/07/22/agile-development-in-a-fda-regulated-setting/comment-page-1/#comment-4474</link>
		<dc:creator>The Software Quality Balancing Act &#124; Bob on Medical Device Software</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Dec 2010 03:40:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Agile development in a FDA regulated setting [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Agile Medical Device Software Development? &#124; Ron Rammage Project Management Blog</title>
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		<dc:creator>Agile Medical Device Software Development? &#124; Ron Rammage Project Management Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Nov 2010 14:57:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] http://rdn-consulting.com/blog/2007/07/22/agile-development-in-a-fda-regulated-setting/ [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] <a href="http://rdn-consulting.com/blog/2007/07/22/agile-development-in-a-fda-regulated-setting/" rel="nofollow">http://rdn-consulting.com/blog/2007/07/22/agile-development-in-a-fda-regulated-setting/</a> [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Agile Software Development in Regulated Environments &#124; Bob on Medical Device Software</title>
		<link>http://rdn-consulting.com/blog/2007/07/22/agile-development-in-a-fda-regulated-setting/comment-page-1/#comment-3870</link>
		<dc:creator>Agile Software Development in Regulated Environments &#124; Bob on Medical Device Software</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Oct 2010 18:36:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] been three years since I wrote Agile development in a FDA regulated setting.  I&#8217;ll be interested to see if the application of &#8220;agile, high assurance [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] been three years since I wrote Agile development in a FDA regulated setting.  I&#8217;ll be interested to see if the application of &#8220;agile, high assurance [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Tom Gradel</title>
		<link>http://rdn-consulting.com/blog/2007/07/22/agile-development-in-a-fda-regulated-setting/comment-page-1/#comment-1994</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom Gradel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Jul 2009 18:17:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The best we have been able to do is prototype(s) while developing the requirements and architecture, followed by design, coding, and testing.  Feedback from prototypes can result in evolving requirements and architecture.  However, once the the SRS goes through the &#039;final&#039; design review and is put under stricter ECN control, agility stops.

I think more research needs to be done to access risk versus software methodology outside of the FDA arena.  If Agile became the predominant methodology used to develop control systems for cars, for example, and we could measure pre- and post-Agile risk in that scenario, we would be better able to change the FDA requirements.  These changes won&#039;t be made on the basis of efficiency or cost.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The best we have been able to do is prototype(s) while developing the requirements and architecture, followed by design, coding, and testing.  Feedback from prototypes can result in evolving requirements and architecture.  However, once the the SRS goes through the &#8216;final&#8217; design review and is put under stricter ECN control, agility stops.</p>
<p>I think more research needs to be done to access risk versus software methodology outside of the FDA arena.  If Agile became the predominant methodology used to develop control systems for cars, for example, and we could measure pre- and post-Agile risk in that scenario, we would be better able to change the FDA requirements.  These changes won&#8217;t be made on the basis of efficiency or cost.</p>
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		<title>By: Hitchhiker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hitchhiker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Apr 2009 11:38:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is an interesting subject for me as I am charged with taking an agile software organisation into medical device land.  Agile techniques have been remarkably successful in the non-medical world for this organisation who develop instrumentation software.  Does anyone know of any specific FDA comments on the use of agile methodologies?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is an interesting subject for me as I am charged with taking an agile software organisation into medical device land.  Agile techniques have been remarkably successful in the non-medical world for this organisation who develop instrumentation software.  Does anyone know of any specific FDA comments on the use of agile methodologies?</p>
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		<title>By: Vince Delmonte</title>
		<link>http://rdn-consulting.com/blog/2007/07/22/agile-development-in-a-fda-regulated-setting/comment-page-1/#comment-1301</link>
		<dc:creator>Vince Delmonte</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Apr 2009 20:57:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My friend on Facebook shared this link with me and I&#039;m not dissapointed at all that I came here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My friend on Facebook shared this link with me and I&#8217;m not dissapointed at all that I came here.</p>
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		<title>By: Clibiaanelt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Clibiaanelt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Apr 2009 22:51:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wonder if web industry affected by crisis as well? and to what extend? Will the admins continue this web?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder if web industry affected by crisis as well? and to what extend? Will the admins continue this web?</p>
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		<title>By: Ilja Preuss</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ilja Preuss</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Mar 2008 07:11:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The purpose of the iterative development is to facilitate requirements changes between each iteration.&quot;

That is one of the purposes, yes. Another is to get earlier feedback on whether what we are building actually works the way it is supposed to work, and to build that learning into future iterations. Another is to more reliably measure progress, in terms of Running Tested Features.

&quot;I just don’t see how a cost-effective quality system process implementation can be accomplished.&quot;

Anecdotal Evidence seems to suggest that an Agile approach actually is more cost effective than a waterfall approach. I think the most important reason is that the earlier we get feedback - for example from a failing test - the less costly it is to incorporate that feedback into the product.

&quot;If you are (or have ever been) part of an Agile development team for a FDA regulated product I’d love to here about your experiences and how you were able to resolve the types of issues presented here.&quot;

I suggest you do some research on PatientKeeper.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The purpose of the iterative development is to facilitate requirements changes between each iteration.&#8221;</p>
<p>That is one of the purposes, yes. Another is to get earlier feedback on whether what we are building actually works the way it is supposed to work, and to build that learning into future iterations. Another is to more reliably measure progress, in terms of Running Tested Features.</p>
<p>&#8220;I just don’t see how a cost-effective quality system process implementation can be accomplished.&#8221;</p>
<p>Anecdotal Evidence seems to suggest that an Agile approach actually is more cost effective than a waterfall approach. I think the most important reason is that the earlier we get feedback &#8211; for example from a failing test &#8211; the less costly it is to incorporate that feedback into the product.</p>
<p>&#8220;If you are (or have ever been) part of an Agile development team for a FDA regulated product I’d love to here about your experiences and how you were able to resolve the types of issues presented here.&#8221;</p>
<p>I suggest you do some research on PatientKeeper.</p>
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		<title>By: Chip Weller</title>
		<link>http://rdn-consulting.com/blog/2007/07/22/agile-development-in-a-fda-regulated-setting/comment-page-1/#comment-232</link>
		<dc:creator>Chip Weller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2007 15:43:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The FDA documentation is written as if a waterfall process is used. It does claim in various documents that a waterfall process is not required. For example http://www.fda.gov/cdrh/comp/guidance/938.html#_Toc517237956.

We typically use a waterfall approach for requirements (although there are changes expected, often TBDs remaining, at the approval) and for the software architecture. Then we use an iterative approach on the detailed design, coding, and verification steps. Validation is done at the end. This approach is certainly not agile. Our concern in using Agile is justifying to the FDA the lack of the design input stage gate. While I think this could be done, our typical clients are somewhat regulatory risk adverse.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The FDA documentation is written as if a waterfall process is used. It does claim in various documents that a waterfall process is not required. For example <a href="http://www.fda.gov/cdrh/comp/guidance/938.html#_Toc517237956" rel="nofollow">http://www.fda.gov/cdrh/comp/guidance/938.html#_Toc517237956</a>.</p>
<p>We typically use a waterfall approach for requirements (although there are changes expected, often TBDs remaining, at the approval) and for the software architecture. Then we use an iterative approach on the detailed design, coding, and verification steps. Validation is done at the end. This approach is certainly not agile. Our concern in using Agile is justifying to the FDA the lack of the design input stage gate. While I think this could be done, our typical clients are somewhat regulatory risk adverse.</p>
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